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Problem with GIT FSX Beta and GoFlight LGT II panel

atrdriveratrdriver
in GoFlight Interface Tool - Technical Support
Hi Steve,

I downloaded the betas for GIT FSX and P3D. While using the FSX version, I noted that a single tap of the flap switch on my LGT II panel extends 2 notches of flaps per tap in the PMDG NGX. My MCP Pro and dual EFIS Control Panels appear to function normally. Just for kicks, I started the P3D beta and the flap switch operates normally in FSX. However, the MCP Pro and EFIS control panels don't function at all (as expected, just checking the flap switch). Also, when starting the FSX beta in FSX, I get a message saying that the Prepar3D.ini file is not found.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Terry Swindle

Comments

  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    I cannot recreate the flaps problem. I suspect you have the LGT flaps switch assigned in some other software such as FSX, GFConfig or FSUIPC such that two pieces of software are sending flap commands.

    In regards to P3D, the fix is detailed here: http://www.pollypotsoftware.org.uk/support/forum.html#/discussion/166/pmdg-777-prepare3d-problem

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Hi Steve,

    Thanks for the response. I've been through every piece of software I'm running and can't find an instance where possibly two sets of flap commands are being sent via my LGT II flap switch. However, I have noticed that when shutting down the GIT, the switch sends flap commands normally. The only other software that's running concurrently with FSX/NGX in this situation is FSUIPC. I've been through that module and can't determine that it is sending any commands as I don't program anything via that module. I'm using GFConfig 2.25. As far as I can tell, GFConfig doesn't allow you to program the flap switch.

    One last note regarding GIT. When I select the LGT tab, everything is grayed out and nothing is selectable. This holds true for the MCPPRO and EFIS tabs. However, those devices operate normally.

    I have sent a tech support message to GoFlight and will let you know if I hear anything from them. In the meantime, thanks for your help!

    Regards,

    Terry
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps
    edited February 2015

    Hi Terry,

    I would shutdown the Goflight data bridge (the small blue icon with a black plane on it in the notification area) and disable fsuipc by renaming it or setting disabled to true in dll.xml and try again.

    If that doesn't work double check that you are not seeing the same problem with other aircraft assuming you have set up the LGT in GFConfig for them.

    Its normal for the MCP PRO, EFIS and LGT to be blank when using the NGX or 777 as they are pre-programmed.

    Goflight cannot help you with GIT or NGX/777 problems - all they will do is refer you request back to me.

    Best wishes

    Steve


  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    I tried everything you suggested but I'm having no luck. I clicked on the DataBridge icon you mentioned. However, the only options I get our standard Windows options, which includes shutting down the software. I'm not sure if the DataBridge was actually shut down or not. All aircraft other than the NGX operate normally with no issues.

    Terry
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    Yes you need to shutdown the databridge by selecting the Quit option.

    Best wishes

    Steve


  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    We're talking about the icon in the very top left corner of the software? If so, there is no quit option there. I only see standard Windows option, which includes a CLOSE option. Sorry for the confusion.

    Terryt
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    No its the icon on your taskbar, bottom right (the notification area).

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    Sorry for being a doofus! That fixed it! Thanks for the help. What is the quickest way to donate?

    Terry
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Great. It looks like GFConfig is sending flap commands (via the data bridge) although I can't replicate that.

    Either use the donate button on GIT or on the product page.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Hey Steve,

    Stand by. Turning off the data bridge introduced some new problems. Will post back here after more evaluations.

    Donated!

    Terry

    Erry
  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Hi again Steve,

    Here's where I'm am at the moment.  Turning off the GFConfig data bridge allows the flap switch to function correctly.  In a strange twist, the function of the aileron and rudder trims function closer to the actual airplane (I fly the 737-800 for a living).  Rolling the LGT II aileron trim in either direction moves the PMDG dual trim switches in the desired direction and leaves them there, allowing the aileron trim to move until the LGT II trim is moved in the opposite direction, which moves the PMDG trim switch back to its neutral position,  Moving the LGT II Rudder Trim rotary switch ONE click in a desired direction also does the same to the PMDG Rudder Trim rotary switch, allowing the trim to move in the desired direction.  Moving it ONE click in the opposite direction centers the PMDG rotary switch.  The only glitch here is that the movement of the LGT II rudder trim is BACKWARDS. Rolling the LGT II Rudder Trim to the RIGHT yields LEFT movement of the PMDG Rudder Trim Switch.  Also on one occasion, moving the rudder trim also caused the aileron trim to move.  Since the GIT is preprogrammed to work with the PMDG NGX, I'm hoping a fix on your end is forthcoming.  With the GFConfig data bridge running, all trim switches function as expected.

    Thanks!

    Terry    
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    I can confirm the rudder is backwards. Well spotted. That bug must have been present for 2+ years. I'll fix in the next release.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    Actually you can change it yourself. If you go to the LGT tab and select Device 0, you should be able to then select the input ROTARY_RUDDERTRIM. You can then change the Input Action to ROTATE_REVERSED.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    <<Its normal for the MCP PRO, EFIS and LGT to be blank when using the NGX or 777 as they are pre-programmed.>>

    I am unable to access anything on the LGT tab.  The tabs are only selectable when the NGX is loaded and, as mentioned above, the data on the tab is grayed out and unselectable.  I thought I might be able to access the LGT tab data with any plane other than the NGX loaded.  I was wrong.  In the meantime, I am still somewhere around square 1.

    Terry

  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    Since you have a rudder control, you have the LGT II, not the LGT which can be programmed so the toggle switch can be configured but it does allow you to change the pre configuration as well.

    Once in the NGX virtual cockpit, select the LGT tab, then click the combo box near the top left corner and select Device 0. All the fields in the LGT tab will then become enabled.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve, 

    Is there a way I can send you a picture of this tab? The LGT, MCPPRO and EFIS tabs are only selectable while IN the NGX virtual cockpit, so I have already tried what you asked me to do above.  when selected, these tabs are completely grayed out.  Nothing on them is selectable. I've clicked on everything.  If I sound frustrated its because I am.  I have two friends coming to my house at noon to prep for interviews with FlyDubai next week. One of the things they have to demonstrate is engine failure at V1 (V1 cuts).  This is going to be difficult without a properly functioning rudder trim.

    Your help is GREATLY appreciated!

    Thanks,

    Terry
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps
    edited February 2015

    Hi Terry,

    "LGT, MCPPRO and EFIS tabs are only selectable while IN the NGX virtual cockpit" - this is the correct behaviour.

    Minimise FSX once in the VC as sometimes if GIT is overlaid on the flight sim window the pull down combo boxes do not display properly. You have to select the Device 0 in the pull down combo box on the LGT tab before anything will become enabled on the LGT tab itself. E.g the top left hand corner should show "Device:" followed by an X button and then a blank combo box. Its the blank combo box you need to click on and select Device 0.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    That worked!  However, with the data bridge turned off I have a new problem.  The gear doesn't work correctly.  It only works UP and DOWN with the switch in the UP or OFF position. The drop down menu for that on the LGT tab only have an UP and DOWN selection, no OFF selection.  Would it be possible to disable the LGT II in the GIT and have the GFConfig control it?  I will try that and report back here.

    Terry 
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps
    edited February 2015

    Hi Terry,


    The LGT works differently for the NGX so that it can be locked i.e. handle the 3 positions. To operate:

    1) Move handle from Down to Up for the NGX Gear Up position.

    2) Then move handle to the Down position and then back to the Up position for the NGX Gear Lock position.

    3) When landing, move from the Up to the Down position for the HGX Gear Down position.

    If you just want to use the data bridge instead, disable the LGT in GIT and configure the LGT in GFConfig.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Steve,

    I did disable the LGT in GIT and got the best result that way.  The trims don't work quite like the real jet but are easier to control for simulation purposes.  The thing that had me thrown off the most was having to minimize FSX in order to change data on the tabs.  With that discovery, I will play with settings and see what I can get to work. Bottom line is that I have a usable sim for my session at noon today!

    Sorry to have been such a PITA over the last couple of days.  Your help has been invaluable.

    Thanks again for all you help!

    Terry
  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Hey Steve,

    Just as a side note, my guys showed up for the session at noon.  For some strange reason, the gear switch didn't work at all after shotting down and restarting my machine!  Thank goodness for the G key!  

    I never had a minute's trouble with the old GoFlight PMDG Interface and may go back to it if I didn't delete it.  I will keep an eye out for new GIT updates.

    Thanks again,

    Terry
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps
    edited February 2015

    Hi Terry,

    The code running in GIT is exactly the same as the Goflight PMDG Interface with the NGX. In fact GIT is built on top of that original code. Nothing has changed in ages for the NGX code so you must be doing something different.

    Best wishes

    Steve

  • atrdriveratrdriver
    Hi Steve,

    It was a self-induced issue. All is well!

    Thanks again!

    Terry

    PS...great difficulty usng your forums on an iPad!
  • admin_ppsadmin_pps

    Hi Terry,

    I have added a link at the top of the forum page to load it full screen for iPad/Tablet users.

    Best wishes

    Steve

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